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	<title>Comments on: Doing video, doing down designers and ducks.</title>
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		<title>By: The Word</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/01/28/doing-video-doing-down-designers-and-ducks/comment-page-1/#comment-3396</link>
		<dc:creator>The Word</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 06:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, the only thing more pathetic than the look of the Wenalway site is one guy posting to himself 3,500 times because nobody else cares to speak to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, the only thing more pathetic than the look of the Wenalway site is one guy posting to himself 3,500 times because nobody else cares to speak to him.</p>
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		<title>By: Wenalway</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/01/28/doing-video-doing-down-designers-and-ducks/comment-page-1/#comment-3095</link>
		<dc:creator>Wenalway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that rest of that needs to be said, though, so it found its way over to the Wenalway site.

And funny how the literate people like writers and editors have no issues with the site, but designers can&#039;t seem to figure it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that rest of that needs to be said, though, so it found its way over to the Wenalway site.</p>
<p>And funny how the literate people like writers and editors have no issues with the site, but designers can&#8217;t seem to figure it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/01/28/doing-video-doing-down-designers-and-ducks/comment-page-1/#comment-3091</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, you can leave a comment and play nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, you can leave a comment and play nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Wenalway</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/01/28/doing-video-doing-down-designers-and-ducks/comment-page-1/#comment-3090</link>
		<dc:creator>Wenalway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys must be illiterate if you can&#039;t navigate that Web site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys must be illiterate if you can&#8217;t navigate that Web site.</p>
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		<title>By: Wenalway</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/01/28/doing-video-doing-down-designers-and-ducks/comment-page-1/#comment-3089</link>
		<dc:creator>Wenalway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you guys can&#039;t navigate.....


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you guys can&#8217;t navigate&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/01/28/doing-video-doing-down-designers-and-ducks/comment-page-1/#comment-3057</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi CLiff

I agree video on mobile won&#039;t be an easy sell. As well as size, the different formats etc will mean that we wait a while before we have the kindof buy in that we are seeing on flash for video on the web. 

I think Paul Bradshaw hit the nail on the head in his latest digital newsroom post. He makes the point that search advirtising is not like any other kind and has to be approached differently. Same deal with mobile. MSM will have to work hard to shift their way of thinking to get the most out of mobile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi CLiff</p>
<p>I agree video on mobile won&#8217;t be an easy sell. As well as size, the different formats etc will mean that we wait a while before we have the kindof buy in that we are seeing on flash for video on the web. </p>
<p>I think Paul Bradshaw hit the nail on the head in his latest digital newsroom post. He makes the point that search advirtising is not like any other kind and has to be approached differently. Same deal with mobile. MSM will have to work hard to shift their way of thinking to get the most out of mobile.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/01/28/doing-video-doing-down-designers-and-ducks/comment-page-1/#comment-3056</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Robb

Very true. Maybe interesting in the medical sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Robb</p>
<p>Very true. Maybe interesting in the medical sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Robb Montgomery</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/01/28/doing-video-doing-down-designers-and-ducks/comment-page-1/#comment-3044</link>
		<dc:creator>Robb Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good round-up, Andy.

FWIW: The only thing interesting about a troll is, perhaps, discovering all of journalism blogs and forums they have been banned from over the past four years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good round-up, Andy.</p>
<p>FWIW: The only thing interesting about a troll is, perhaps, discovering all of journalism blogs and forums they have been banned from over the past four years.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Etzel</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/01/28/doing-video-doing-down-designers-and-ducks/comment-page-1/#comment-3042</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff Etzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...having absolutely no design on his site at all. Rendering most of it unreadable.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I agree with you on this statement Andy - I am a web designer in addition to shooting video and working with audio and his site breaks most of the rules of usability.

&lt;blockquote&gt;...perhaps the web is the wrong platform. Perhaps Mobile is where we need to be.&lt;/blockquote&gt;This is an interesting arena to look at.  There isn&#039;t much in the way of mobile broadband outside of the larger metro areas, and yet, there are millions of these devices being used everyday.  I think the challenge is two fold - cellular broadband access and screen real estate - who really wants to watch video on a 160x120px screen?  I have done some web design for Windows Mobile devices and the challenges for designing sites are difficult enough, let alone viewing video on these devices.

For video to be watchable, IMO, the screen size needs to be a minimum of 320x240 in order for the viewer to feel like they are engaged in what they are viewing.  The only place I have seen this to date is on devices like Windows mobile devices and devices like Apple&#039;s iTouch and iPhone.

Until these two issues are addressed more, I think video on mobile devices will be a VERY small segment of distributed VJ content.

My $0.02 worth.

Cliff Etzel - Solo Video Journalist
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bluprojekt.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bluprojekt&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;having absolutely no design on his site at all. Rendering most of it unreadable.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree with you on this statement Andy &#8211; I am a web designer in addition to shooting video and working with audio and his site breaks most of the rules of usability.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;perhaps the web is the wrong platform. Perhaps Mobile is where we need to be.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is an interesting arena to look at.  There isn&#8217;t much in the way of mobile broadband outside of the larger metro areas, and yet, there are millions of these devices being used everyday.  I think the challenge is two fold &#8211; cellular broadband access and screen real estate &#8211; who really wants to watch video on a 160x120px screen?  I have done some web design for Windows Mobile devices and the challenges for designing sites are difficult enough, let alone viewing video on these devices.</p>
<p>For video to be watchable, IMO, the screen size needs to be a minimum of 320&#215;240 in order for the viewer to feel like they are engaged in what they are viewing.  The only place I have seen this to date is on devices like Windows mobile devices and devices like Apple&#8217;s iTouch and iPhone.</p>
<p>Until these two issues are addressed more, I think video on mobile devices will be a VERY small segment of distributed VJ content.</p>
<p>My $0.02 worth.</p>
<p>Cliff Etzel &#8211; Solo Video Journalist<br />
<a href="http://www.bluprojekt.com/" rel="nofollow">bluprojekt</a></p>
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