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	<title>Comments on: MEN miss a trick with Munich Tribute</title>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/02/06/men-score-own-goal-with-munich-tribute/comment-page-1/#comment-3262</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Razina. I agree and that&#039;s why I thnk it&#039;s a shame they didnt make more of the web coverage and catch people just like you but who may not be able to access the special.

If they saw the coverage and  appreciated it as much as you then they will see the MEN and as trustworthy, quality source for information. It may mean they are likely to come back. It builds an audience they may not have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Razina. I agree and that&#8217;s why I thnk it&#8217;s a shame they didnt make more of the web coverage and catch people just like you but who may not be able to access the special.</p>
<p>If they saw the coverage and  appreciated it as much as you then they will see the MEN and as trustworthy, quality source for information. It may mean they are likely to come back. It builds an audience they may not have.</p>
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		<title>By: Razina Bargit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Razina Bargit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what the MEN did by printing 48-page supplement was the least they could to honour the death of sport stars of a team so close to us, by name and by distance - well, for those who live around manchester anyway! Despite proximity Man Utd is probably one of the very few teams who has fans around the planet, including celebrites, apparently including famous stars like Justin Timberlake. Until the week running upto the anniversary, I have to admit I had never heard of the Munich air crash, let alone know anything more about it. The MEN gave people - like myself- a real good insight and paid good tribute to those lost in the tragedy, journalists and footballers alike!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what the MEN did by printing 48-page supplement was the least they could to honour the death of sport stars of a team so close to us, by name and by distance &#8211; well, for those who live around manchester anyway! Despite proximity Man Utd is probably one of the very few teams who has fans around the planet, including celebrites, apparently including famous stars like Justin Timberlake. Until the week running upto the anniversary, I have to admit I had never heard of the Munich air crash, let alone know anything more about it. The MEN gave people &#8211; like myself- a real good insight and paid good tribute to those lost in the tragedy, journalists and footballers alike!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/02/06/men-score-own-goal-with-munich-tribute/comment-page-1/#comment-3242</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if the world knew about it then you would sell newspapers.

I wasn&#039;t advocating putting the whole supplement on line. I was advocating using the information in a staged and creative way to have as much of a presence online as they did in the paper. That way, they could be recognsised for their quality and commitment online as they are in print.

To assume that by putting stuff up on the web you a) have to put it all up and b)that devalues the printed copy is just wrong.

One would hope that the supplement was a genuine effort to offer readers a valuable resource but don&#039;t forget that in this day and age readers means online as well as print.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if the world knew about it then you would sell newspapers.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t advocating putting the whole supplement on line. I was advocating using the information in a staged and creative way to have as much of a presence online as they did in the paper. That way, they could be recognsised for their quality and commitment online as they are in print.</p>
<p>To assume that by putting stuff up on the web you a) have to put it all up and b)that devalues the printed copy is just wrong.</p>
<p>One would hope that the supplement was a genuine effort to offer readers a valuable resource but don&#8217;t forget that in this day and age readers means online as well as print.</p>
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		<title>By: James Parry</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/02/06/men-score-own-goal-with-munich-tribute/comment-page-1/#comment-3240</link>
		<dc:creator>James Parry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with having such a wealth of information as a 48-page supplement is that if the world new about it it wouldn&#039;t be as special.

The traditional nature of a supplement is something which you go out and buy the paper especially for, to gain that information as well as everything you&#039;d normally expect to find in the day&#039;s paper.

Unlike the free DVDs given out with national newspapers left, right and centre, the supplements have significant hours of labour put in them and are (one would hope) not just about increasing circulation for a day, but paying a genuine tribute to a disaster which still sits in the minds of it&#039;s readership, whether it be from having witnessed it on the day or heard about it from an uncle or grandfather.

For some it may prove to be as significant as something they keep meaning to look up on Wikipedia but just haven&#039;t had the time, though with any luck one Wiki article is trumped by a 48 page pull-out.

Nonetheless to put the supplement online immediately could prove to be a saturation of information for someone wanting to check the latest headlines, and for those who wrote it a physical page is far harder to ignore than a link or banner on a home page.

The important thing is that those who want to find out the information can, and hopefully that&#039;s an issue the MEN will address continually in print and online.

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Led Zeppelin - Kashmir</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with having such a wealth of information as a 48-page supplement is that if the world new about it it wouldn&#8217;t be as special.</p>
<p>The traditional nature of a supplement is something which you go out and buy the paper especially for, to gain that information as well as everything you&#8217;d normally expect to find in the day&#8217;s paper.</p>
<p>Unlike the free DVDs given out with national newspapers left, right and centre, the supplements have significant hours of labour put in them and are (one would hope) not just about increasing circulation for a day, but paying a genuine tribute to a disaster which still sits in the minds of it&#8217;s readership, whether it be from having witnessed it on the day or heard about it from an uncle or grandfather.</p>
<p>For some it may prove to be as significant as something they keep meaning to look up on Wikipedia but just haven&#8217;t had the time, though with any luck one Wiki article is trumped by a 48 page pull-out.</p>
<p>Nonetheless to put the supplement online immediately could prove to be a saturation of information for someone wanting to check the latest headlines, and for those who wrote it a physical page is far harder to ignore than a link or banner on a home page.</p>
<p>The important thing is that those who want to find out the information can, and hopefully that&#8217;s an issue the MEN will address continually in print and online.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Led Zeppelin &#8211; Kashmir</p>
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