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	<title>Comments on: The story is dead. Long live the story</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/04/21/the-story-is-dead-long-live-the-story/#comment-3703</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Just because we in newspapers always called a little 10-inch-long report “a story” does not mean it really WAS a story"

Exactly. And i hope we can salvage the word before people put a nail in its coffin :) Lets make those articles story chunks.

I agree a report can be part of the process of telling a story - each a compelling narrative on it's own. But a story is something that can be massively energised by new media. Community, crowd sourcing, multimedia all of those elements. But the breadth and depth are the key story telling drivers. All those sub-plots to explore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just because we in newspapers always called a little 10-inch-long report “a story” does not mean it really WAS a story&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly. And i hope we can salvage the word before people put a nail in its coffin <img src='http://www.andydickinson.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Lets make those articles story chunks.</p>
<p>I agree a report can be part of the process of telling a story - each a compelling narrative on it&#8217;s own. But a story is something that can be massively energised by new media. Community, crowd sourcing, multimedia all of those elements. But the breadth and depth are the key story telling drivers. All those sub-plots to explore.</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy McAdams</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/04/21/the-story-is-dead-long-live-the-story/#comment-3702</link>
		<dc:creator>Mindy McAdams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Andy, the story is a long thing, not a short thing. A story is made up of many anecdotes and many scenes. A lot of characters, too, in most cases. And subplots! 

Just because we in newspapers always called a little 10-inch-long report "a story" does not mean it really WAS a story. "A report" is probably more accurate. Now, that's not to say a report can't be PART OF a story. It probably is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Andy, the story is a long thing, not a short thing. A story is made up of many anecdotes and many scenes. A lot of characters, too, in most cases. And subplots! </p>
<p>Just because we in newspapers always called a little 10-inch-long report &#8220;a story&#8221; does not mean it really WAS a story. &#8220;A report&#8221; is probably more accurate. Now, that&#8217;s not to say a report can&#8217;t be PART OF a story. It probably is.</p>
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		<title>By: One Man and His Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/04/21/the-story-is-dead-long-live-the-story/#comment-3700</link>
		<dc:creator>One Man and His Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Why I Still Buy Magazines...&lt;/strong&gt;

Do you still read magazines? Do you pick up a daily newspaper? Or have you moved entirely online. Andrew of Engagement 101 challenged me to list the three magazine I would subscribe to in printed form. Well, in fact, I......</description>
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<p>Do you still read magazines? Do you pick up a daily newspaper? Or have you moved entirely online. Andrew of Engagement 101 challenged me to list the three magazine I would subscribe to in printed form. Well, in fact, I&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/04/21/the-story-is-dead-long-live-the-story/#comment-3699</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mindy. I forgot about the serialization thing. Funny isn't it, that people used to gather in the local inn to have newspapers read for them.

I just want people to stop equating the story with the structure and article. It's much richer and broad than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mindy. I forgot about the serialization thing. Funny isn&#8217;t it, that people used to gather in the local inn to have newspapers read for them.</p>
<p>I just want people to stop equating the story with the structure and article. It&#8217;s much richer and broad than that.</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy McAdams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mindy McAdams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Andy. It immediately got me thinking about the epics of pre-writing cultures ... the Odyssey, the Iliad, the Sundjiata story from Mali, the Yugoslavia folk tales studied by Milman Parry. Before we had TV, before we had books, the wandering storyteller would visit your town and entertain people by telling these very, very long stories. 

Because it takes several days to tell one of these, the story is structured in episodes. (Think of Charles Dickens and how his long novels were originally serialized in magazines.) Each episode had to be interesting and complete in itself.

So even though I enjoyed your post, I think Kevin Marsh is dead wrong.

Humans have based learning, culture and education on the story for thousands of years. The story format might change (telenovelas, for example), but the fundamental unit of story will not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Andy. It immediately got me thinking about the epics of pre-writing cultures &#8230; the Odyssey, the Iliad, the Sundjiata story from Mali, the Yugoslavia folk tales studied by Milman Parry. Before we had TV, before we had books, the wandering storyteller would visit your town and entertain people by telling these very, very long stories. </p>
<p>Because it takes several days to tell one of these, the story is structured in episodes. (Think of Charles Dickens and how his long novels were originally serialized in magazines.) Each episode had to be interesting and complete in itself.</p>
<p>So even though I enjoyed your post, I think Kevin Marsh is dead wrong.</p>
<p>Humans have based learning, culture and education on the story for thousands of years. The story format might change (telenovelas, for example), but the fundamental unit of story will not.</p>
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