Comments on: The long, long, long tail of digital revenue models http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/04/29/the-long-long-long-tail-of-digital-revenue-models/ online journalism, newspaper video and digital media Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:20:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: hutcewgs qohpb http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/04/29/the-long-long-long-tail-of-digital-revenue-models/#comment-4039 hutcewgs qohpb Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:48:52 +0000 http://www.andydickinson.net/?p=740#comment-4039 yexkpot tygb tdqmsbv anylohgpm wkyfiqzj pkuglby dngxj yexkpot tygb tdqmsbv anylohgpm wkyfiqzj pkuglby dngxj

]]> By: links for 2008-04-30 « Joanna Geary http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/04/29/the-long-long-long-tail-of-digital-revenue-models/#comment-3791 links for 2008-04-30 « Joanna Geary Thu, 01 May 2008 07:22:18 +0000 http://www.andydickinson.net/?p=740#comment-3791 [...] The long, long, long tail of digital revenue models by andydickinson.net All the talk of market forces and free-conomics and changing models caused, as Mark Comerford noted on Twitter, “a huge amount of wrinkled foreheads and worried looks amongst the totally male panel”… [...] [...] The long, long, long tail of digital revenue models by andydickinson.net All the talk of market forces and free-conomics and changing models caused, as Mark Comerford noted on Twitter, “a huge amount of wrinkled foreheads and worried looks amongst the totally male panel”… [...]

]]> By: RickWaghorn http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/04/29/the-long-long-long-tail-of-digital-revenue-models/#comment-3788 RickWaghorn Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:08:18 +0000 http://www.andydickinson.net/?p=740#comment-3788 as Mark Comerford noted on Twitter, “a huge amount of wrinkled foreheads and worried looks amongst the totally male panel”... So invite Sly Bailey next time... as Mark Comerford noted on Twitter, “a huge amount of wrinkled foreheads and worried looks amongst the totally male panel”…

So invite Sly Bailey next time…

]]> By: The Journalism Iconoclast » The Web owes us nothing http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/04/29/the-long-long-long-tail-of-digital-revenue-models/#comment-3787 The Journalism Iconoclast » The Web owes us nothing Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:54:12 +0000 http://www.andydickinson.net/?p=740#comment-3787 [...] Andy Dickinson put it well: It (the Web) doesn’t care that you have been doing this for years, you have to earn your eyeballs like everyone else. Telling us that you deserve special treatment sounds a bit like a multinational bank saying it needs a handout because of the credit crunch. Cause and effect. [...] [...] Andy Dickinson put it well: It (the Web) doesn’t care that you have been doing this for years, you have to earn your eyeballs like everyone else. Telling us that you deserve special treatment sounds a bit like a multinational bank saying it needs a handout because of the credit crunch. Cause and effect. [...]

]]> By: One Man and His Blog http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/04/29/the-long-long-long-tail-of-digital-revenue-models/#comment-3784 One Man and His Blog Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:27:45 +0000 http://www.andydickinson.net/?p=740#comment-3784 <strong>The 3 Best Quotes from the Journalism Leaders Forum...</strong> Yesterday evening I happily spent some time following the Journalism Leaders Forum through Twitter and a live video stream. There was much debate about the vague pointlessness of one of the sessions - "Why isn't more media translating into more money... The 3 Best Quotes from the Journalism Leaders Forum…

Yesterday evening I happily spent some time following the Journalism Leaders Forum through Twitter and a live video stream. There was much debate about the vague pointlessness of one of the sessions - ”Why isn’t more media translating into more money…

]]> By: clare cook http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/04/29/the-long-long-long-tail-of-digital-revenue-models/#comment-3782 clare cook Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:00:09 +0000 http://www.andydickinson.net/?p=740#comment-3782 What no one seemed to set about challenging though in the ensuing debate was the dychotamy of the two notions of brand: on one hand there's the LEP saying brand will save them, backed up by Hitwise who earlier proved that people actually search by 'media' brand - and then Rick saying he's getting away from it all and making a living (ironically cashing in on the brand-style market forces that has given him a career for the last decade). I was also touched by the added irony: a debate about old skool newspaper business models by a panelist made up of a blogger, researcher and the epitomy of new-style fragmentation - myfootballwriter! What no one seemed to set about challenging though in the ensuing debate was the dychotamy of the two notions of brand: on one hand there’s the LEP saying brand will save them, backed up by Hitwise who earlier proved that people actually search by ‘media’ brand - and then Rick saying he’s getting away from it all and making a living (ironically cashing in on the brand-style market forces that has given him a career for the last decade).

I was also touched by the added irony: a debate about old skool newspaper business models by a panelist made up of a blogger, researcher and the epitomy of new-style fragmentation - myfootballwriter!

]]> By: Nigel Barlow http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/04/29/the-long-long-long-tail-of-digital-revenue-models/#comment-3781 Nigel Barlow Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:46:51 +0000 http://www.andydickinson.net/?p=740#comment-3781 Good stuff Andy. The digital market is not the be all and end all. I thought the best thing to come out of last night was this concept of the so called free market sorting out the media industry.It may work in sunny California but not in the Uk.Market forces don't work because they don't address the needs of the members of society that require support. Information works the same way and I think I made the point last night of what happens to the essential information that the market doesn't want to provide because it is not cost effective. And as you quite rightly say there are many people in the Uk that don't have access to a computer,who rely on information from the traditional media patterns. Are we entering a new class war.Those with information and platform and those that haven't? Good stuff Andy.

The digital market is not the be all and end all.

I thought the best thing to come out of last night was this concept of the so called free market sorting out the media industry.It may work in sunny California but not in the Uk.Market forces don’t work because they don’t address the needs of the members of society that require support.

Information works the same way and I think I made the point last night of what happens to the essential information that the market doesn’t want to provide because it is not cost effective.

And as you quite rightly say there are many people in the Uk that don’t have access to a computer,who rely on information from the traditional media patterns.

Are we entering a new class war.Those with information and platform and those that haven’t?

]]> By: Charlie Beckett http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/04/29/the-long-long-long-tail-of-digital-revenue-models/#comment-3780 Charlie Beckett Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:38:57 +0000 http://www.andydickinson.net/?p=740#comment-3780 Monetisation is THE big question now. Anderson is right though. All that new media has done is expose journalism to market forces. At last the public have a clear and accessible choice. Unfortunately, that choice might be not to consume journalism. In the UK especially, we have had effective monopolies and distribution cartels. Now we have to start from the bottom up in justifying our product to the punter. If it is good enough, if it has value, then the consumer will pay for it somehow. But first we have to earn their trust and make ourselves relevant, entertaining and useful. That will only happen when we start including the public in the process. Networked Journalism makes business sense as well as editorial and social sense. cheers Charlie Beckett Monetisation is THE big question now. Anderson is right though. All that new media has done is expose journalism to market forces. At last the public have a clear and accessible choice. Unfortunately, that choice might be not to consume journalism. In the UK especially, we have had effective monopolies and distribution cartels. Now we have to start from the bottom up in justifying our product to the punter. If it is good enough, if it has value, then the consumer will pay for it somehow. But first we have to earn their trust and make ourselves relevant, entertaining and useful. That will only happen when we start including the public in the process. Networked Journalism makes business sense as well as editorial and social sense.
cheers
Charlie Beckett

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