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		<title>By: &#160; There are no stories on the web&#160;by&#160;andydickinson.net</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/10/23/turning-dog-poo-in-to-stories/comment-page-1/#comment-5916</link>
		<dc:creator>&#160; There are no stories on the web&#160;by&#160;andydickinson.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8216;ve been pondering that titular mantra for while now. I&#8217;ve got to the point where I&#8217;m wondering whether my focus on the idea that the web will not just simply cough up a story is really about a broader shift in mindset that journalists need to make or more about me getting my head around the process. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8216;ve been pondering that titular mantra for while now. I&#8217;ve got to the point where I&#8217;m wondering whether my focus on the idea that the web will not just simply cough up a story is really about a broader shift in mindset that journalists need to make or more about me getting my head around the process. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: video 2 zero &#187; Context is King revisited - 3 more rules</title>
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		<dc:creator>video 2 zero &#187; Context is King revisited - 3 more rules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Authenticity.&#8221;  via Andy Dickinson  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Confiteor</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/10/23/turning-dog-poo-in-to-stories/comment-page-1/#comment-5894</link>
		<dc:creator>Confiteor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can argue about the merit of spending too much time providing services to report one piece of dog poo. But if it was happening every day, and it was the park where YOUR children play, then it might be one of the most important issues in your life. I&#039;m serious. 

One of my favourite examples of &quot;hyperlocal&quot; reporting is: http://ts10.gazettelive.co.uk/2008/04/plea_over_redcar_play_area.html

Great example of a story that is of almost no interest outside a 500m radius of its subject, but which is of MAJOR importance to the people who live there.

And look at the comments. Yes, they get a bit &quot;raw&quot; at times, but that is life. 

But I also get a real sense that the technology is helping people with shared interests and needs talk to and understand each others&#039; position.

That hasn&#039;t happened since the days when &quot;everyone left their doors unlocked&quot; and spoke over the garden wall. That is, if those days EVER existed..

But I think the real potential might come in being able to do more than just report problems. What about something more positive?

The house round the corner from me just had a loft extension. I would LOVE to see the result, because I would like to do the same, but I don&#039;t feel comfortable chapping on a stranger&#039;s door.

But what&#039;s the bets the guy is keen to show off what has been created?

And wouldn&#039;t the builder he used love a service that allowed satisfied customers to earn rewards if they took the time to post before/after pics that led to new business from neighbours?

Who is going to create the street-level service that connects all three of us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can argue about the merit of spending too much time providing services to report one piece of dog poo. But if it was happening every day, and it was the park where YOUR children play, then it might be one of the most important issues in your life. I&#8217;m serious. </p>
<p>One of my favourite examples of &#8220;hyperlocal&#8221; reporting is: <a href="http://ts10.gazettelive.co.uk/2008/04/plea_over_redcar_play_area.html" rel="nofollow">http://ts10.gazettelive.co.uk/2008/04/plea_over_redcar_play_area.html</a></p>
<p>Great example of a story that is of almost no interest outside a 500m radius of its subject, but which is of MAJOR importance to the people who live there.</p>
<p>And look at the comments. Yes, they get a bit &#8220;raw&#8221; at times, but that is life. </p>
<p>But I also get a real sense that the technology is helping people with shared interests and needs talk to and understand each others&#8217; position.</p>
<p>That hasn&#8217;t happened since the days when &#8220;everyone left their doors unlocked&#8221; and spoke over the garden wall. That is, if those days EVER existed..</p>
<p>But I think the real potential might come in being able to do more than just report problems. What about something more positive?</p>
<p>The house round the corner from me just had a loft extension. I would LOVE to see the result, because I would like to do the same, but I don&#8217;t feel comfortable chapping on a stranger&#8217;s door.</p>
<p>But what&#8217;s the bets the guy is keen to show off what has been created?</p>
<p>And wouldn&#8217;t the builder he used love a service that allowed satisfied customers to earn rewards if they took the time to post before/after pics that led to new business from neighbours?</p>
<p>Who is going to create the street-level service that connects all three of us?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/10/23/turning-dog-poo-in-to-stories/comment-page-1/#comment-5880</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mindy,

I totally agree. It&#039;s the ease of use tied in with a useful application to the technology that makes it so great. If someone is committed enough to take the snap and upload it then they are ignored at your peril. If they will take the time to do that, imagine how much time they would put in to bugging you if you didn&#039;t do anything about it :). Even better though, how much time would they put in to helping you if you got them on side.   

Equally interesting to me was the comments which added an interesting take on the relationships in the area. That is gold dust to a journo looking to get deeper in to the communities they serve.</description>
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<p>I totally agree. It&#8217;s the ease of use tied in with a useful application to the technology that makes it so great. If someone is committed enough to take the snap and upload it then they are ignored at your peril. If they will take the time to do that, imagine how much time they would put in to bugging you if you didn&#8217;t do anything about it :). Even better though, how much time would they put in to helping you if you got them on side.   </p>
<p>Equally interesting to me was the comments which added an interesting take on the relationships in the area. That is gold dust to a journo looking to get deeper in to the communities they serve.</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy McAdams</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/10/23/turning-dog-poo-in-to-stories/comment-page-1/#comment-5874</link>
		<dc:creator>Mindy McAdams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a fantastic idea because it addresses the roots of urban blight and how neighborhoods slide into slumminess. Dog poo may not be the most important part of this, but litter and broken windows and out-of-control graffiti are signs that a neighborhood is starting to go bad. If this site becomes the primary site for these reports and complaints, it&#039;s possible that the politicians will be unable to ignore it -- and then they must act, and then the neighborhood gets help. 

While the photos might seem silly, it is so easy to take a snap with your cell phone -- why not? And it is a form of proof. I could write in every day that there is a new painted eyesore on a wall between my house and the bus stop -- but a photo proves it is true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a fantastic idea because it addresses the roots of urban blight and how neighborhoods slide into slumminess. Dog poo may not be the most important part of this, but litter and broken windows and out-of-control graffiti are signs that a neighborhood is starting to go bad. If this site becomes the primary site for these reports and complaints, it&#8217;s possible that the politicians will be unable to ignore it &#8212; and then they must act, and then the neighborhood gets help. </p>
<p>While the photos might seem silly, it is so easy to take a snap with your cell phone &#8212; why not? And it is a form of proof. I could write in every day that there is a new painted eyesore on a wall between my house and the bus stop &#8212; but a photo proves it is true.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon B.</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/10/23/turning-dog-poo-in-to-stories/comment-page-1/#comment-5872</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consider camera-phones with internet connection, sometimes even GPS. Interfaces for reporting that way are in the making, if not already available! Imaging walking on the street, maybe writing an sms or otherwise not keeping eyes glued on the ground and your phone beeps you just a moment before you step into it (poo, gum, other hard to clean off stuff). I&#039;d sign up for (hopefully discreet) beeps to warn about light-poles in the middle of the street, and those knee-level car blockers which I run into now and then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consider camera-phones with internet connection, sometimes even GPS. Interfaces for reporting that way are in the making, if not already available! Imaging walking on the street, maybe writing an sms or otherwise not keeping eyes glued on the ground and your phone beeps you just a moment before you step into it (poo, gum, other hard to clean off stuff). I&#8217;d sign up for (hopefully discreet) beeps to warn about light-poles in the middle of the street, and those knee-level car blockers which I run into now and then.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2008/10/23/turning-dog-poo-in-to-stories/comment-page-1/#comment-5863</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol - tonnes of flyers to stop litter. How many times has that one cropped up.

I guess litter and the like are always going to be staples of &#039;local&#039; coverage and the web is not going to make them any less frustrating to cover :)

What I liked about the fixmystreet stuff was that the little bit of extra info they allow means that you get more of the tone and the agenda. Something that is often missing from the info heavy web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol &#8211; tonnes of flyers to stop litter. How many times has that one cropped up.</p>
<p>I guess litter and the like are always going to be staples of &#8216;local&#8217; coverage and the web is not going to make them any less frustrating to cover :)</p>
<p>What I liked about the fixmystreet stuff was that the little bit of extra info they allow means that you get more of the tone and the agenda. Something that is often missing from the info heavy web.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandre Gamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandre Gamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To tell you the truth, last year, when i was working at a local radio, one of the last field reports i did was about dog poo. A local board launched a campaign - with flyers showing a close up of a fake specimen - appealing to civic counscience regarding owners and their pets, that created real &quot;mine fields&quot; on the city streets (as a matter of fact it was directed at the area i live in). 

I thought that was crappy assignment, had to interview a council man, who promptly used the issue to attack the city hall cuts on the sanitary department. Long story short, it was a no show BUT it had it&#039;s density (poor choice of words...).  

It earned 2 minutes airtime, and i went back home to wash my hands from such dirty tactics. By the way, the campaign caused more litter than  effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To tell you the truth, last year, when i was working at a local radio, one of the last field reports i did was about dog poo. A local board launched a campaign &#8211; with flyers showing a close up of a fake specimen &#8211; appealing to civic counscience regarding owners and their pets, that created real &#8220;mine fields&#8221; on the city streets (as a matter of fact it was directed at the area i live in). </p>
<p>I thought that was crappy assignment, had to interview a council man, who promptly used the issue to attack the city hall cuts on the sanitary department. Long story short, it was a no show BUT it had it&#8217;s density (poor choice of words&#8230;).  </p>
<p>It earned 2 minutes airtime, and i went back home to wash my hands from such dirty tactics. By the way, the campaign caused more litter than  effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess if you stood in the stuff you might be motivated to do something. The web makes it easy to complain in that way. 

I&#039;m not sure that I would take the time to take pictures of poo but, hey, everything is important to someone.  And (engage serious lecturer voice) maybe that&#039;s a lesson for journalists to learn in an increasingly local world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess if you stood in the stuff you might be motivated to do something. The web makes it easy to complain in that way. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that I would take the time to take pictures of poo but, hey, everything is important to someone.  And (engage serious lecturer voice) maybe that&#8217;s a lesson for journalists to learn in an increasingly local world.</p>
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		<title>By: James Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me that has concerns for the people who take the shots of the &quot;poo&quot; and then take precious time out of their life to submit them to fixmystreet? I know a picture is a thousand words, but this is surely an exception?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me that has concerns for the people who take the shots of the &#8220;poo&#8221; and then take precious time out of their life to submit them to fixmystreet? I know a picture is a thousand words, but this is surely an exception?!</p>
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