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There are no stories on the Web - Amphibia Daily Links — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:13:37 +0000

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By: Rob Alderson

Rob Alderson — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:10:39 +0000

Really interesting article Andy and ties in with the session at the Society of Editors Conference last week about journalism training. The NCTJ survey on the skills gap between trainees and employers found the most common complaint from the latter was that new journalists lacked the fundamental skill of being able to find their own stories.

Much was made of the fact this is a traditional skill rather than a new demand thrown up by the online revolution (something like video editing capability) but I think the speakers failed to appreciate that the ways in which we should hunt down stories has changed.

By: Tim Holmes

Tim Holmes — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:35:30 +0000

Gotcha – in the words of a less wise man

By: Andy

Andy — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:44:10 +0000

I agree Tim and not getting my drift is a common problem with my posts

I was less interested in the idea that the media has a parasitic relationship with itself. You’re right. That’s a given. It was more the idea that the way the web was being embraced meant that some of the value of the journalists relationship with the audience was being lost.

That doesn’t mean that the web was killing it or that the old way of doing things was redundant. I was just pondering that the real value (and the stories) was in the interaction and that can happen online and off if you keep the idea that people have the stories.

So it was more that relationship I was talking about then the way the each section of the media relates to each other.

By: Tim Holmes

Tim Holmes — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:41:41 +0000

I don’t quite get your drift in this post Andy. Surely the web is no different from any other medium as far as what you describe goes; students, journalists or anyone else can re-report from a newspaper, a magazine, a radio or tv bulletin or documentary. All media forms cannibalise all other media forms and always have. It is a common experience to read something in a paper one day and then hear it as a Today piece the following day (rarely the other way around, oddly). What makes digital delivery different? Nothing. It’s the same.

News is people, as a wise man said not that long ago.

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Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:46:26 +0000

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By: Teaching Online Journalism » Telling stories online: Do you?

Teaching Online Journalism » Telling stories online: Do you? — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 14:30:38 +0000

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Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:23:23 +0000

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Links para hoje | Links for today « O Lago | The Lake — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:09:31 +0000

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Cision.net Blogs » Blog Archive » Comms Links 04/10/08 — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:25:17 +0000

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