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		<title>By: Majalah Komunitas Online memanfaatkan Wordpress &#171; Ngomongin Apa Aja&#8230;.</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2009/01/13/print-organisations-will-need-to-open-source-their-systems-new-year-convictions/comment-page-1/#comment-7295</link>
		<dc:creator>Majalah Komunitas Online memanfaatkan Wordpress &#171; Ngomongin Apa Aja&#8230;.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Print organisations will need to open source their systems: New year convictions [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#160; Guardian goes data crazy&#160;by&#160;andydickinson.net</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2009/01/13/print-organisations-will-need-to-open-source-their-systems-new-year-convictions/comment-page-1/#comment-7054</link>
		<dc:creator>&#160; Guardian goes data crazy&#160;by&#160;andydickinson.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As I said in my new years convictions, media companies, and newspapers in particular will have to go open source to get the benefit of the online community.   From that perspective it could be easy to write this off as the &#8216;tech-savvy&#8217; Guardian being geeky or the nationals fiddling whilst the regional Rome burns.  But the big regional newspaper  players, with centralised IT are a network big enough to compete at this level. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As I said in my new years convictions, media companies, and newspapers in particular will have to go open source to get the benefit of the online community.   From that perspective it could be easy to write this off as the &#8216;tech-savvy&#8217; Guardian being geeky or the nationals fiddling whilst the regional Rome burns.  But the big regional newspaper  players, with centralised IT are a network big enough to compete at this level. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-01-20 &#171; David Black</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2009/01/13/print-organisations-will-need-to-open-source-their-systems-new-year-convictions/comment-page-1/#comment-6586</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2009-01-20 &#171; David Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Print organisations will need to open source their systems: New year convictions - andydickinson.n... &quot;That means they can benefit from the fast moving developments in the community and support the innovation where required.&quot; (tags: internet newspapers newspapersites journalism technology tools opensource cms) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Print organisations will need to open source their systems: New year convictions - andydickinson.n&#8230; &quot;That means they can benefit from the fast moving developments in the community and support the innovation where required.&quot; (tags: internet newspapers newspapersites journalism technology tools opensource cms) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Veckan som gick - vecka 3 at Same Same But Different</title>
		<link>http://www.andydickinson.net/2009/01/13/print-organisations-will-need-to-open-source-their-systems-new-year-convictions/comment-page-1/#comment-6573</link>
		<dc:creator>Veckan som gick - vecka 3 at Same Same But Different</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Open Source har Andy Dickinson skrivit om att prinföretag måste gå över till open source-lösningar. Spännande läsning som inleds som följer: The second of my new year convictions is Print [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Open Source har Andy Dickinson skrivit om att prinföretag måste gå över till open source-lösningar. Spännande läsning som inleds som följer: The second of my new year convictions is Print [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Your Dose: 16th January 2009 &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Your Dose: 16th January 2009 &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Henning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve just started following me at Twitter, thanks :) I&#039;ll keep my followers posted on our product launches and examples of good local stuff on our papers.

Seem to me that our basic strategy for a common design framework is very different from the one you posted: &quot;A standard template ensures the brand identity is managed effectively &quot;

Our strategy is simply to ensure that local papers with limited recourses are enabled to keep up with the digital development.

Here&#039;s an example of an integration with coveritlive: 
http://moss-avis.no/section/SPORT12/1379

All article with article comments is also an example of integration with open-source, mixing editorial content deliverd by Saxotech with a custom made article comment solution, example: http://dt.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090114/NYHET/477376901/1063/NYHET

Another example: this one with an embedded video from our custom made web-tv publishing system (and comments)http://tb.no/article/20090114/NYHETER/35333771/1011/NYHETER</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve just started following me at Twitter, thanks :) I&#8217;ll keep my followers posted on our product launches and examples of good local stuff on our papers.</p>
<p>Seem to me that our basic strategy for a common design framework is very different from the one you posted: &#8220;A standard template ensures the brand identity is managed effectively &#8221;</p>
<p>Our strategy is simply to ensure that local papers with limited recourses are enabled to keep up with the digital development.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an example of an integration with coveritlive:<br />
<a href="http://moss-avis.no/section/SPORT12/1379" rel="nofollow">http://moss-avis.no/section/SPORT12/1379</a></p>
<p>All article with article comments is also an example of integration with open-source, mixing editorial content deliverd by Saxotech with a custom made article comment solution, example: <a href="http://dt.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090114/NYHET/477376901/1063/NYHET" rel="nofollow">http://dt.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090114/NYHET/477376901/1063/NYHET</a></p>
<p>Another example: this one with an embedded video from our custom made web-tv publishing system (and comments)<a href="http://tb.no/article/20090114/NYHETER/35333771/1011/NYHETER" rel="nofollow">http://tb.no/article/20090114/NYHETER/35333771/1011/NYHETER</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Henning. Thanks for the comment

My point wasn&#039;t that the opensource Vs commercial is a problem. A well run commercial operation is just that. It works because it is open and well designed for the purpose.

My point was that the motivation and strategy for corporate templating (different from a corporate system) is, in many cases, so broken and at odds with efforts made in other parts of organisations that and open or semi-open strategy is the only option for quick improvement.

If you train journalists to engage with open or community ware source -dipity, cover it live. Then you should not be surprised when your staff want to mirror some or that activity.

It sounds like you have a good balance there. A common starting point with flexible stuff for those who want the next step. 

I&#039;d be interested in knowing a bit more about the model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Henning. Thanks for the comment</p>
<p>My point wasn&#8217;t that the opensource Vs commercial is a problem. A well run commercial operation is just that. It works because it is open and well designed for the purpose.</p>
<p>My point was that the motivation and strategy for corporate templating (different from a corporate system) is, in many cases, so broken and at odds with efforts made in other parts of organisations that and open or semi-open strategy is the only option for quick improvement.</p>
<p>If you train journalists to engage with open or community ware source -dipity, cover it live. Then you should not be surprised when your staff want to mirror some or that activity.</p>
<p>It sounds like you have a good balance there. A common starting point with flexible stuff for those who want the next step. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested in knowing a bit more about the model.</p>
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		<title>By: Henning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree. The problem is not opensource vs commercial licenses. The problem is &quot;how flexible are the common design and technical framework&quot;?

If a common design framwork leave little place for local adjustments its sad. That can be done in Drupal as well as in Escenic, Fatwire, Polopoly or other systems.

I manage a departement that runs 35 titles on a common design and technical framework. We use both commercial licenses and opensource software (see ex: http://www.dt.no and http://www.f-b.no)

Our main reasons for a common design framework is to enable small papers to move fast. A good concept in one city is probably a good concept in another city as well. But some concepts run in one city only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. The problem is not opensource vs commercial licenses. The problem is &#8220;how flexible are the common design and technical framework&#8221;?</p>
<p>If a common design framwork leave little place for local adjustments its sad. That can be done in Drupal as well as in Escenic, Fatwire, Polopoly or other systems.</p>
<p>I manage a departement that runs 35 titles on a common design and technical framework. We use both commercial licenses and opensource software (see ex: <a href="http://www.dt.no" rel="nofollow">http://www.dt.no</a> and <a href="http://www.f-b.no" rel="nofollow">http://www.f-b.no</a>)</p>
<p>Our main reasons for a common design framework is to enable small papers to move fast. A good concept in one city is probably a good concept in another city as well. But some concepts run in one city only.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Dickinson: Print organisations must make systems open source &#124; Journalism.co.uk Editors' Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Dickinson: Print organisations must make systems open source &#124; Journalism.co.uk Editors' Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Links for Jan. 14, 2008 &#171; CC: Chris Cadelago, journalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links for Jan. 14, 2008 &#171; CC: Chris Cadelago, journalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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